(October 26, 2011 at 8:20 pm)Cinjin Wrote: YOUR god?!!? Hell no, I don't want him showing up here. If the bible has taught us one thing it's that your god is a brutal violent SOB with a real penchant for killing anyone who doesn't conform to the smallest of details.
You bring up a good point, I don't know what to say to this.
Quote:No the bible clearly does not teach that. If you don't choose to worship your god, you face eternal torment in a place he admittedly prepared for you. That is not free will by any stretch of the imagination.
How is it not free will? You have a choice in the matter free from God swaying you one way or the other. However, there is a consequence. There are consequences for every action we do whether the consequence is good or bad. I a parent says "clean your room or your grounded." their child still has the free will to decide to do it or not but being grounded is the consequence for choosing not to, just like not being grounded is the consequence for cleaning your room. Having free will has nothing to do with the outcome of the choice you make.
Quote:How does KNOWING someone have anything to do with justifying whether or not to FOLLOW said person?!??! One has NOTHING to do with the other. NOTHING!
I know George W. Bush is real, and I choose not to support him. That doesn't make him any more or less legitimate as an American president. What exactly are you talking about?????????
Quote:If your god was shown to be real I still wouldn't follow him, as Ive had three occasions to point out tonight. Where does that leave your argument?
Honestly, I don't know where that leaves my argument. I was wrong to say that if He was known that people would follow him. You brought up an excellent point about Bush (especially since I don't support him either)
