(October 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm)SeekerOfTruth Wrote: I choose to believe in him because that belief agrees with the way i perceive the world and recognize existence. Sure, I'm one of those Christians that looks at existence and sees God's creation, but I'd never use that as an argument for God's existence because everyone perceives the world differently and in their own unique way.That's not even a sensical answer.
You just told me that you assume existance is god's creation but that's not an excuse to say that god exists.
The christian doctrine assumes that god is real and jesus died for our sins. You can't have it both ways between agnostic atheism and christianity because Christianity assumes god exists by default.
You cannot be a christian without believing in God and the divinity of Jesus.
(October 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm)SeekerOfTruth Wrote: Yes, more and more of the bible is disproven everyday, but its only disproven because its assumed to be literal while much of the bible is metaphorical in nature. The story of creation for instance initially wasn't taught as a literal 6 days but rather 6 huge periods of time. It was a metaphor even to the earliest Jews.It's not that significant portions of the bible is metaphorical - it's outright false. The entire story of genesis is particularly nonsensical between what we know and what the bible states is true.
Any connection between the two would be arbitrary and unnecessary.
The rest of the bible doesn't really fare any better in this sense. How do you consolidate that with your beliefs?
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
