Moral Nihilism

[Tiberius]

IMO Charles needs to reread the dictionary concerning objective and subjective purposes. I said I wouldn't respond, but I just wanted to say something concerning this disaster of an argument:

1. “You” are a member of the class of the universe.
2. “Your belief that you have subjective purpose” is likewise a member of the class of the universe.
3. Your “subjective purpose itself” is a member of the class of the universe.
4. The universe as a class has no purpose.
5. Therefore its members have no purpose.
6. Therefore “you” have no purpose.
7. Therefore “your belief that you have subjective purpose” has no purpose.
8. Therefore your “subjective purpose itself” has no purpose.

Q.E.D.

There is no such thing as “subjective” purpose in a purposeless universe.

Points 1 - 8 I totally agree with, and he shows very effectively that subjective purpose has no objective purpose. I never argued such a thing.

He then says "Q.E.D" which usually means the end of the proof. He doesn't stop there though, because he then somehow tries to use the result "subjective purposes have no objective purpose" to conclude that subjective purposes do not exist.

He somehow thinks that without an objective purpose, things cannot exist, yet he has nothing to base this conclusion on. All he has done is taken a conclusion about the objective purpose of subjective purposes and turned it into a conclusion about the existence of subjective purposes.

It's like saying that because there was no reason for the killer to murder his victim, the killer (and possibly the victim) simply do not exist.

Bizarre logic.