[Serious] What God's justification for eternal torment?

[Mister Agenda]

Not sure it's valid. That matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed holds within the universe, it doesn't necessarily apply TO the universe. I think it's a fallacy of composition. That doesn't mean it's not true, but I think we can't say for sure that it HAS to be true.

I see no reason why it HAS to be false either, and it's a much more plausible explanation than the universe being created ex nihilo by an invisible man in the sky.

I never said or even implied or could be reasonably construed to insinuate that it HAS to be false (in fact I feel my phrasing implies that it doesn't have to be false) and certainly didn't intimate that a deity creating the cosmos ex nihilo was reasonable at all. There are multiple hypotheses for the origin of the state which held before the Initial Expansion, including the possibility that it originated from a quantum vacuum fluctuation. All of the hypotheses with merit are supported by math that works and what we know of physics. We have no means yet of testing any of them. The only honest answer to 'Where did all the matter and energy in the universe come from?' is 'We don't know, yet.' You CAN say with rational certainty though that all matter and energy in the cosmos has existed since time began.