RE: Question about "faith"
September 13, 2020 at 8:36 am
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2020 at 8:57 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 13, 2020 at 7:58 am)Angrboda Wrote: Producing such a knowledge claim would be a valid method of supporting your initial assertion. So, produce an example of a knowledge claim that we know to be true apart from feeling that we know and I will accept, at least provisionally, that you have supported your initial assertion. Failing that, I'm left to conclude that at this stage I have no reason to conclude that your assertion is true except perhaps ipse dixit.Do you know any of that? Is a single proposition in that entire post a cognitive proposition...or do you feel a certain way about a thing?
I have, and I noted something that I thought to remark upon earlier, which is that you seem to be conflating truth and knowledge. The specific example you gave was being alive. You said, ""I am alive" is not knowledge, it's not true - it's just a feeling." It's possible for the proposition, "I'm alive," to be true without it being knowledge. Truth and knowledge are different animals. So while under most conceptions of knowledge, it is necessary for something to be true if it is knowledge, the reverse is not true. Truth and knowledge aren't interchangeable.
I don't know that they're necessarily mutually exclusive, so it's possible that your question represents a false dichotomy. Without knowing whether it is or isn't a false dichotomy, I can't answer the question. I'm not asserting one way or the other. You are. Which leads us back to the above questions which must be resolved, therefore, before this question here can be resolved. You've got the cart ahead of the horse.
If you feel that any sentence in any of your posts is the kind of thing that can be true or false, then it seems silly to ask me to produce yet another example of such a claim to knowledge, doesn't it? Your (our, housecat's) claims to knowledge may be mistaken, but they are, at least, claims to knowledge which arise from something other than feeling a certain way about a thing, even if you also happen to feel certain ways about things.
The set of cognitive propositions is not exhausted by true things that we don't feel any certain way about - just as the set of even numbers is not exhausted by numbers that end in 2, even though there are a hell of alot of 2's in the set of even numbers.
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