(June 11, 2009 at 3:15 pm)LukeMC Wrote:(June 11, 2009 at 2:22 pm)bozo Wrote: I would support a system of proportional representation...there is a variety. I would go for that because I believe it would encourage more people to actually get involved, even if that were just casting a vote!
Under pr, " minority" parties get to have a say. Opponents would say that fascist parties would benefit as well as parties of the left. My answer is that open debate and scrutiny of policies would expose the far-right for what it is. I would welcome the opportunity of joining again a genuine socialist party that could win seats under athe different system.
Open debate and scrutiny are the keys to a lot of victories in this country, I'm sure. I know that such things constantly alter my decisions and motivation. Now that you've suggested PR, how do you suppose such a system could creep its way into place? I can't see the conservatives giving up their disproportionally high number seats next year to some "left wing loons" without a fight. If you know what you want to achieve it's always good to have an idea of how to get to it. I'm still young enough to be optimistic.
Bozo Wrote:Re. the tories and europe, if you check out today's Guardian newspaper, page 29 " Comment & debate " Timothy Garton Ash describes how Cameron's tories in europe are leaving the centre-right grouping ( the EPP ) and instead aligning themselves with a motly crew of easter european right-wing nutters.
I found the article which can be located here for anyone interested in the context.
Strange move by Cameron. I'd quite like to know what he thinks he's doing associating with some of these clowns (Christianity is the root of European greatness?) . Any suggestions, Bozo, Adrian?
Re.pr the big 2 parties have never embraced pr because they have shared power for so long under fptp.
However, post expenses scandal, there is a clamour for constitutional reform, including pr which can be seen operating elsewhere e.g europe. My hope is that it is brought in openly, not creeping!
Re. Cameron, he appears to have boxed himself into a far-right corner in europe as a result of pandering to euro-sceptics in his own party 4 or so years ago. As if being part of a centre-right coallition wasn't bad enough!
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
