(September 18, 2020 at 10:00 am)Eleven Wrote:Hitler ran and won on the popular vote. The EC would act as a counter to that popular insanity.(September 18, 2020 at 9:58 am)Brian37 Wrote: Fine, but you cannot tell me, prior open states have not become corrupt or fallen.
Again, I am not arguing for or against the EC, my question is, what would you replace it with?
If you read my prior post, what I was pointing out is that ALL governments in the world are run by humans, thus will always be subject to manipulation and corruption. It still depends on those in an open society to value the system they live under.
Germany was an open democracy post WW1 and still was manipulated and fell.
Even in a Parliamentary system like England, they have a Mini Me Trump running things.
Tell me, what is the job of the EC?
It seems to me that it's only job is to go against the voice of the people and elect whom it wants.
I wouldn't think in terms of either/or here.
If it were always about going with what the voters wanted, then Mitt Romney was wrong for voting to impeach.
I said in my prior post, I am torn on the EC. But in a theoretical battle between say JFK and Reagan, I could live with an EC win/loss either way.
Trump isn't even 2000. Even today the Bushes hate Trump, none of them are supporting him today.
I think the long term problem is gerrymandering, and the horrible SCOTUS "citizens united" decision. And 35 years of Fucks News hasn't helped.
