(September 18, 2020 at 10:27 am)Divinity Wrote: The Electoral College: The only College Republicans like.
It's such a stupid fucking idea. "We need to give Rural States a voice!" THEY HAVE ONE. It's called the motherfucking Senate and congress. Now maybe stop letting them control the rest of the goddamn nation because otherwise they might have a hissy fit.
I love you lady, I really do.
But for everyone reading this, not just you. I really have debated this issue long before I joined this forum.
When one looks at human history, with other systems, we have seen that they are not perfect, and have even failed.
My point isn't to argue for or against. I have said twice in this thread I am torn.
It isn't enough to simply say, "get rid of it". What would you suggest to replace it that you think would work foolproof?
My problem with this oversimplification is that we have seen other open democratic systems that don't have the EC fail in human history too.
Iran is ruled by popular vote. Despite what many in the west think, they do have elections too.
If I were to change the EC in any way, it would be that the numbers have to be far smaller to trigger an EC win than they are now.
I think both margins in 2000 and 2016 were far to high to trigger an EC win by the popular vote loser.
But, again, if others here want to say "scrap it", what would you replace it with, and can you show me any other system that is immune to manipulation and corruption that is immune to falling?
I am not judging, I really am not. I don't like these EC outcomes anymore than anyone else. But I also don't want a pure vote either. Pure votes lead to Hitler and Stalin. Pure votes lead to Iran going from an open state to a theocracy.
Here are some images of Afghanistan in the 1960s.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Afghanis...10&dpr=1.5
I see the long term problem as being TRUMP and the GOP, not our constitution.
