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The Electoral College
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RE: The Electoral College
(September 19, 2020 at 4:03 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Donald Trump represents best why the Electoral College is a failed system.  Not just because he won, but because theoretically he could refuse to give federal funding to every state that didn't vote for him -- and this is no doubt something he would try to do -- and still win the Presidency.  And if not Donald Trump, then a future President that is just as petty as him.  The President is supposed to represent everyone.  This President has failed in that regard (and so many others).  Our Electoral College system simply doesn't work.

Again, what do we replace it with?

To say that other western attempts at defending pluralism have not failed would be wrong. Human history is full of western attempts at open states that fail. 

I see any western government, as run by humans, and just like closed oppressive states arise, all are still run by humans.

I am not arguing for or against the EC, I am arguing that what we do matters regardless of keeping it, or scrapping it.

I think ultimately any system humans set up and defend or question, no matter what, always require vigilance and forethought and checks and balances. 

It isn't enough to say "scrap the EC"....... Whatever we replace it with, if we can, still has to have the insurance of not allowing either mob rule by majority or mob rule by minority. 

I am not arguing don't replace it, but what do we replace it with?
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The Electoral College - by DeistPaladin - September 17, 2020 at 6:09 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 17, 2020 at 6:19 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by DeistPaladin - September 17, 2020 at 7:42 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by The Architect Of Fate - September 17, 2020 at 8:27 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by GUBU - September 18, 2020 at 9:04 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Brian37 - September 18, 2020 at 9:22 am
RE: The Electoral College - by downbeatplumb - September 21, 2020 at 2:03 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Foxaèr - September 18, 2020 at 9:27 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Brian37 - September 18, 2020 at 9:58 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Foxaèr - September 18, 2020 at 10:00 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Brian37 - September 18, 2020 at 10:12 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Foxaèr - September 18, 2020 at 10:17 am
RE: The Electoral College - by GUBU - September 19, 2020 at 4:49 am
RE: The Electoral College - by DeistPaladin - September 18, 2020 at 12:57 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Mister Agenda - September 18, 2020 at 9:36 am
RE: The Electoral College - by arewethereyet - September 18, 2020 at 10:01 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Divinity - September 18, 2020 at 10:27 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Brian37 - September 18, 2020 at 10:45 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Divinity - September 18, 2020 at 10:56 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Brian37 - September 18, 2020 at 11:04 am
RE: The Electoral College - by arewethereyet - September 18, 2020 at 12:42 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Irreligious Atheist - September 18, 2020 at 3:12 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by arewethereyet - September 18, 2020 at 3:45 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Cecelia - September 19, 2020 at 4:03 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Brian37 - September 19, 2020 at 7:18 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 19, 2020 at 7:26 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Brian37 - September 19, 2020 at 7:49 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Sal - September 19, 2020 at 8:21 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 19, 2020 at 8:27 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Mister Agenda - September 21, 2020 at 10:02 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Foxaèr - September 21, 2020 at 10:06 am
RE: The Electoral College - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 10:08 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Brian37 - September 21, 2020 at 10:38 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Mister Agenda - September 21, 2020 at 10:14 am
RE: The Electoral College - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 10:36 am
RE: The Electoral College - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 10:44 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Foxaèr - September 21, 2020 at 10:48 am
RE: The Electoral College - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 10:55 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Rhizomorph13 - September 21, 2020 at 11:33 am
RE: The Electoral College - by Mister Agenda - September 21, 2020 at 11:04 am
RE: The Electoral College - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 12:15 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Rhizomorph13 - September 21, 2020 at 3:30 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by DeistPaladin - September 21, 2020 at 8:22 pm
RE: The Electoral College - by Rhizomorph13 - September 21, 2020 at 8:47 pm

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