RE: Question about "faith"
September 20, 2020 at 10:36 am
(This post was last modified: September 20, 2020 at 10:42 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 19, 2020 at 11:58 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I think the Bible more precisely falls into the divine category. By that I mean it isn't an independent resource whose propositions you must trust in order to believe God exists. You have to first be convinced of it's legitimacy before you have faith in it. Keep in mind Scripture is the Word of God for the Christian. As such, God is the proposer, Scripture is the proposition, and faith emerges from that:
"Faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ." (1 Timothy 1:4)
But I'm sure there are individuals who read scripture and it appeals to their reason; it is self-evident in that sense. As for people's experiences, I suspect it is a spectrum. Ranging from those who believe they have had direct interaction with the divine, down to those who simply found religion to work in their personal life, it gives positive results.
(September 19, 2020 at 3:34 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You already trust it before you have faith? Sounds like faith and trust might not be the same thing.
(September 19, 2020 at 4:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Incorrect.b-mine
Incorrect..... how...? I think you'll find that many, most, or all of us can understand the use of the word trust when we're convinced of somethings legitimacy. We don't all have faith in those things, though. I'm convinced of the us governments legitimacy - for example. You probably are as well. Neither of us would describe our trust, so described, in the us government being legitimate as equivalent to your faith in christ or in the contents of magic book, I suspect.
They're allowed to be different things, and they keep turning out to be different things when you describe them. Being a different thing doesn't make faith a bad thing.
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