RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
October 8, 2020 at 8:45 pm
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2020 at 8:58 pm by Sal.)
(October 8, 2020 at 5:21 pm)runewell Wrote:(October 7, 2020 at 6:48 pm)Sal Wrote: Do you think man-made laws are descriptive?
How do you square that god, in giving life, supposedly along with the Free Will™, is also sanctioned in ending it? You're arguing for nothing different than for parents to murder their children at a whim. Again, abhorrent and disgusting.
I don't understand the point of your first question.
I don't see why you cannot. It's a very basic observation of your claim. You assume whatever a god is capable of, is also a part of its nature. Christians usually phrase this with hollow terms, in this context, like "goodness" or "perfect" or some such shit. It's something WLC has fumbled his way to, with his divine command "theory" for example. All of the ways in we describe the consistency of Nature with physical theories from observing that very consistency. No matter what laws we describe Nature in, those are completely descriptive, while all man-made laws are just moral impositions, prescriptions, on how we ought to behave.
Or is it simply you do not understand the distinction between 'descriptive' and 'prescriptive'? You wouldn't be the first. Here's a question which might illustrate that: What do you think is the difference between the Newtonian law of gravitational attraction between mass, and a societal law about complete prohibition against stealing?
(October 8, 2020 at 5:21 pm)runewell Wrote: How do you square that God, in giving live, is NOT sanctioned in ending it?
"Might makes right"? Is that it? Pathetic. What a pathetic being you describe as god.
I guess "2 + 2 = 5", when 'god' has the student under its boot.
(October 8, 2020 at 5:21 pm)runewell Wrote: You're arguing for a God who is unable to do whatever He wants - Who is going to bring Him to justice?.
The problem for any god doing anything at a whim - while at the same time thinking that is sanctioned somehow - is a fast track to excusing abhorrent behavior for those pretending to speak for that god. Your "god" is nothing more than a very human political tool to exert control and maintain power over people then.
Tell me, do you think your god is part of the reality we, as humans, experience? IOW, are the same rules we experience, applicable to god as well? You should be careful how you respond, lest your god having the exact appearance of non-existence.
(October 8, 2020 at 5:21 pm)runewell Wrote: Laughable and illogical.
Your god is internally inconsistent, a contradiction, that I have little doubt you spun out of thin air to argue with atheists. Business as usual.