[Serious] What God's justification for eternal torment?

[runewell]

Ironically, the only part of the bible that seems to explore hellfire is Revelations.

Depends on what you mean explore. In several instances Jesus alluded to fruitless branches that would get cut off and thrown into the fire.

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This seems like a simple problem with language that I can clear up with you.  A thing isn't made arbitrary or non arbitrary on account of the number of deciding agents.  The terms right and wrong are made arbitrary by not referring to anything about the act - rather, to the whims of the decider.

Nothing about the act of rape, or your example below of genocide, will change if a god or anyone else or many gods or many people declared it to be right.  Insomuch as a thing can be right or wrong, in any real sense, there must be something about that thing that makes it right or wrong.  Some thing that either is or isn't true about that thing, not the appraiser.


Rape is no more or less hypothetical than genocide...but, sure, another example we use for it's ease.  Why would genocide be bad?  I think that we're touching on alot of things here - but we can put the brakes on it for a moment to make sure that we're not having a pointless argument.

Is it your contention that morality is real, non arbitrary, and that theres something about these seemingly bad things that makes them better or good, or justifiable, or are you dispensing with morality entirely in favor of an invocation of pure ability?  It would be silly to bicker over the morality of an issue with a person who does not think that morality applies.   

Do you think that genocide might be justifiable punishment for disobediance, or do you think that the issue is moot in the face of gods raw power?

So far his morality seems to be