RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
October 11, 2020 at 2:43 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2020 at 2:44 am by Sal.)
(October 10, 2020 at 7:01 pm)runewell Wrote: Regarding: So far his morality is "Might makes right".
Well, it's an easy and convenient argument to make, and one I agree with. I don't want to limit my replies to that narrow rebuttal, but it may become necessary. When I was asked about holding God to some sort of standard, I immediately recused myself from that idea - I don't hold God to any standard, and wouldn't want to worship one who could be.
Jesus said, "there is no one good but God". You might not like the idea of the Israelites committing genocide in the old testament or hellfire in the new testament, but those are expressions of his justice. The initial post of this thread rages against the idea of eternal torment as an appropriate punishment,
If you find yourself unable to determine what is right because you lack the moral compass for it (your little notion of recusing yourself, as if it was some legality or something), then by what metric do you determine that god is good™?
If you don't understand this, then think of it this way: I can write the same sentence above, translate it, into 2 other languages I know, one of which there's no Google Translate for. Now, I recuse myself from being able to translate that sentence into Mandarin, because I am not able to due to lack of knowledge & ability.
In this analogy conferred to your argument, you're simultaneously claiming to know English and being able to translate it to Mandarin. I'm sure you'd be able to using a tool like Google Translate, but would you understand what it said in Mandarin ... ?
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
