(October 14, 2020 at 3:02 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(October 14, 2020 at 1:43 pm)brewer Wrote: It's not about the so called prophet and what he is claimed to have done or not done.
It's about the assertion that a god exists as more than a concept of the human mind.
The existence of god is an entirely separate issue. What's compelling me to believe a personal god exists is simply the aspect of design and purpose around us, that is, the teleological arguments are the most compelling to me, and that includes our design, too, regardless of whether one accepts all aspects of evolution or not. In the end, evolution is a process. The existence of a process still warrants an explanation.
The smallest particles in the universe are governed by very precise and inescapable laws, it's somewhat insane to think that our lives don't have laws or some predetermined ideal path.
It's not a separate issue, no god means no need for a prophet. That means the prophet either delusional or intentionally making shit up.
So magic watchmaker then, good for you, hope it works. There is nothing further for us to discuss. See ya.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
