RE: Nimrod & Religion
June 13, 2009 at 2:26 am
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2009 at 2:36 am by Kyuuketsuki.)
(June 12, 2009 at 1:21 pm)TRUTH1986 Wrote: Well, acording to the Most High, The Heaven and Earth was created before the Sun, but before the Heaven and Earth it was The Creator. Everything revolves around The Creator, not the sun. People have been worshipping the sun since the time of Nimrod, they have created lies to glorify/worship the sun. They have worship created things rather than the Creator.
This "Most High" bloke (and everyone who believes the same) is a wingnut then because the Earth is no more the centre of the universe than anything else is (apart from, presumably, the point in space where the big bang expansion started). Moreover the evidence supports an Earth that is slightly younger than the Sun as indeed are all the solar planets.
(June 12, 2009 at 4:38 pm)TRUTH1986 Wrote: What caused the sun to form? Where did the sun get its energy?? The sun hasn't always existed, so it got its energy from something that had energy. That something that has energy, is greater than the sun, because it gave the sun its energy.
The following is a fairly good model that fits the observed evidence:
Quote:To deal specifically with our local star, Sol, and it’s associated orbiting bodies ... the Solar system originally formed as a disc, spinning on a roughly flat plane (imperfect because of density variation). This disc consisted of unbound matter, in other words, the only thing that kept it together was gravity. As the disc spun, certain rotational speed levels were segregated by gravity into rough bands and those bands partly defined by the gravitational forces acting upon them, partly by magnetic interference (just like Saturn's rings).
The nature of gravity is that the steady appearance of defined bands of higher mass will lead to other bands of higher mass forming nearby, deflected from being accreted into the sun or another planet by the attraction of the forming protoplanet but not actually absorbed into it. This is an equilibrium point. Mathematically it is somewhat more likely that such accretion will happen in a slightly lower energy orbit than/for the protoplanet as/than for protomoons so the majority form that way.
If the protoplanets had protomoons then, as the protomoons formed, they did so in orbits either slightly inside or outside that of the protoplanet they would eventually orbit (remember they were still orbiting the sun only). If a protomoon formed in an outside orbit then the planets higher speed would allow it to 'catch up' on an orbital path and, by means of gravity, snag it. If such an action caused the protomoon to slow significantly then it would fall into the planet to get added to its mass. If it was snagged on the other side (inside the protoplanets orbit) then it would have fallen into a stable planetary orbit.
Because, in this example, the protomoon started at higher energy the only way this could have happened was for it to fall 'behind' the orbit of the planet to be picked up by its gravitational wake. If that happened then its motion would be in the other direction to that of the orbital direction around the sun.
Protomoons that formed at lower energy than their protoplanets would almost certainly orbit in the same direction as the planet they were orbiting, the chance of it happening the other way round would have been very slim.
I wrote that some years ago ... if you intend to reply please deal specifically with the things mentioned in the article and not stupid quotes from your non-validatable bible.
(June 13, 2009 at 1:38 am)TRUTH1986 Wrote: The Bible is True.
The bible is an historic source, it is not history therefore it is not *TRUE*
Kyu
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