(October 27, 2020 at 6:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Do you disagree with Macrons position? That islam is a faith in crisis globally? That islamists have, as you put it, made your societies bleed since the 70's?
Well, that's the basic premise of secularism. That a theocracy abuses by it's nature, and cannot help but to abuse along whatever lines superstition demands. That a properly functioning government -for all of a country's people- will prevent this abuse and reject it's claim to legitimacy through legality. That we can enjoy freedom of and from religion in government.
Do you have these freedoms? What do you think about them? Are they worth fighting for, as a person who's seen a religious bent bleed a global society for 50 years?
I didn't say "Islamists" are destructive, I said "Islamic extremists" are:
Quote:WinterHold said:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-61863-p...pid2006030
More and more Muslims have begun to despise the extremist Muslims who made our societies bleed since the 70s; Especially after ISIS's role in demolishing Syria; Muslims had enough. Now we will simply follow the Quran literally and boycott that who makes fun of our faith:
As for secularism, opinions vary so as examples; just like there are Muslim extremists there are also secular extremists.
Neither Macron nor a Million like him would change the faith I choose.