RE: The absurd need for logical proofs for God
November 30, 2020 at 7:27 am
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2020 at 7:28 am by R00tKiT.)
(November 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Mostly harmless is not harmless. None of which demonstrates any use for these viruses that make up some 8% of our genome. So useless and worse than useless.
It's not hard to find studies showing potential roles of these retroviruses, here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26818265/
I already told you, and you're not listening; saying that something in our body is useless is always an appeal to ignorance, unless you figure out some unprecedented way to establish the uselessness of a body part.
(November 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Neither does it mean that it is there. You know how the Burden of Proof works. He who makes the absurd claim that this apparently functionless sand grain is Designed gets to provide the evidence. Have fun with that.
Apparently you're unable to draw the distinction between designed and useful. Design doesn't logically imply usefulness. Many chemical elements, for example, were around us for aeons of time and remained useless until very recently. Lithium wasn't discoverd until 1817, and didn't really "become useful" until we started manufacturing batteries.
So, the function of something out there in nature largely depends on culture, technological advancement, etc. All of them are human-related processes.
(November 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Efficiency is also a matter of competence. Only a moron makes a pocket watch with a mast and rudder. Design is easy to spot by what it isn't.
The fraction of the universe that intelligent life can survive in is so vanishingly small that only a lack-wit would have built it that way, and only the heirs to the kingdom of imbeciles would worship it.
This is your second or third appeal to ignorance. Life outside of Earth is an active area of research, meanwhile you already make assertions about it.
(November 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: I'm not instructing any deity. I'd have to believe in them to do that. I'm simply pointing out that a deity doesn't need anything as sloppy as physical constants. A Designed universe doesn't need gravity. Things fall because The Designer Wills them to. All arguments from fine-tuning and design fail because they explicitly admit to physics and biochemistry that no competent deity woud be caught dead soiling its hands with.
What do you mean by "as sloppy as physical constants" ? How exactly do you manage to emit judgments on how the universe is built ? And what's exactly sloppy about things falling ?
(November 30, 2020 at 2:29 am)Nomad Wrote:(November 29, 2020 at 4:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Evolution couldn't have occurred without fine-tuning. Natural selection depends on a large set of chemical and biological processes that can't be ascribed to coincidence.
Stop lying. We live in a universe without fine tuning, yet we still managee to evolve.
Right.. lucky you
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