(December 1, 2020 at 7:29 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: In the soul forge scenario the divine isn't limited to gods, but..yeah..sure, we (in the grandest sense) don't seem to be doing great...if this is a soul forge - it's not a very good one. You can take that for it's normative content or for it's descriptive. IMO, ofc.
I Don't know. I'm not sure what's going on and even if God explained it to me I doubt I'd be intelligent enough to understand the answer anyway.
If this is all about experiential learning for the benefit of spiritual growth - I don't know where we are at in development as a planet. I suspect we are somewhere near the beginning - with lots to go through and learn.
Quote:What prevents a person from knowing something in this life, and what relevance do a person's individual preferences have for a hypothetical next? These are the sorts of things about beliefs that always fascinate me.I can play with the question and freestyle a guess??
What prevents a person from knowing something in this life?
Hmmm My first thought would be
a) their senses / instruments? If a thing is unobservable to them - they wouldn't "know" the thing.
b) their mind? Intelligence - They may actually be observing a thing every day but be unable to connect the dots and see the outline. (Not smart enough to spot the pattern and so wouldn't know about the thing). Emotional - They may be hindered emotionally and so the subconscious mind (whatever that means haha) blocks the knowledge? (Basically a self deception). This wouldn't technically count - because the person does know on some level.
Summary: One basic answer is - What you can observe. Make sense of what you observe.
Relating to my faith, it's a thought that maybe the spirit world is all around us all the time. I don't see it. I don't think I've the sensory evolution to observe it fully nor would I have the intelligence to process it if I should observe it. Save examples of when I think I've had a genuine experience from God (I think he came to me in a way I could understand).
what relevance do a person's individual preferences have for a hypothetical next?
I'll assume God exists and the purpose of this life and the next is continuing spiritual growth through learning (often experiential).
I don't know the answer to this either hahaha.
My first thought is that God gives you 1) What you need and 2) What you want - in varying degrees.
This could be a bit more hellish than your life on earth or a bit more heavenly.
1) What you need
Assuming God understands the entire blueprint of the soul/spirit including potential futures.
God would understand how to get to all potentials and why soul is in current state etc etc.
God would have an ideal and the resources & will to give it. This God would call "What you need".
(You may have other ideas). I assume you're given the option to take His way or select your own way.
2) What you want in varying degrees.
Of course - getting to what you truthfully "want" -
2) I assume a perfect appraisal is done of you which summarises your experience on earth
a1) A review whereby you (re)experience/see all of your thoughts, actions, motives, feelings.
You also see and feel how you affected everyone else by experiencing their feelings on your behaviour.
a2) You see/experience all the consequences of your actions - good or bad?
a3) Heaven citizenship shares their feelings on your own freewill decisions with you. (They are hurt when you don't love. They are elated when you love).
a4) Heaven citizenship shares their feelings on how you were treated. (unloved - they are hurt. loved - they are pleased)
b) Then you're given opportunity to draw a conclusion for yourself.
c) Options are laid out coming with, warnings, appeals and advice. You are asked if you wish to continue your path towards God, or, not?
You want to have a go at a (partial) answer?
note: This answer is pure speculation. I am not saying this is what happens. It's only a guess of how things might work.
