RE: The absurd need for logical proofs for God
December 4, 2020 at 3:38 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2020 at 3:47 am by GrandizerII.)
(December 3, 2020 at 4:13 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Now you're resorting to lies ? I clearly stated that aspects of adaptation of means to ends around us are the evidence of design, not human designed objects.
Which (if true) can happen via natural processes without appealing to a divine being as a necessary explanation. So it's a stretch to say "aspects of adaptation of means to ends" are evidence of a divine mind (which is really what you're trying to get at). We know what science has to say about the formation of things like rocks and mountains and about the evolution of life on earth in the form of bacteria and plants and animals and such. Whether there is some God ultimately at the starting point of the causal chain that eventually leads to these formations and variety of life on earth is a different subject of debate. There is nothing from what we do know with a fairly good degree of certainty that there has to be such a God, especially one involved in actively designing these things over a long period of time rather than just (for example) sustaining things in existence.
Remember the broad type of people you're having discourse on this topic with (namely, atheists), and also try to avoid begging the question.