RE: The absurd need for logical proofs for God
December 15, 2020 at 2:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2020 at 2:04 pm by R00tKiT.)
(December 14, 2020 at 10:51 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: So HERV are 8% of your genome and you've managed to find a handful that actually do something while the overwhelming majority either have no function or are outright harmful. We'd expect evolution to co-opt a few of them but that's the sort of behaviour that makes your Designer look like an imbecile.
I suggest you take a deep breath and present your arguments objectively, this ridiculing tone won't help you. Now let me count your logical fallacies for you:
You are smuggling a straw man here: design is supposed to be perfect, which is not my position, or any theist's position.
AND you're arguing from ignorance, it turned out there actually is something beneficial about HERV, and it's likely that more benefits will come to light in the future, despite that you're asserting that they have absolutely no function.
But my guess would be you're aware of the fallacies you're making, and I am beginning to smell dishonesty.
(December 14, 2020 at 10:51 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: No, I'm arguing that the bulk of the genome is apparently useless rubbish
Bold mine. You deny arguing from the appearance of design to infer actual design. At the same time you have no problem arguing from an apparently functionless part of genome.
So, once again, you're arguing from ignorance.
(December 14, 2020 at 10:51 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: . It's easy to understand how this would come about through purely natural processes. 4 billion years of unguided evolution is going to be a smidge untidy. If you're claiming Design then the Burden of Proof is on you to show why this unholy mess of a genome should be regarded as Designed rather than the nasty looking accident that it pretty clearly is.
Such a good-looking strawman you have there. Why are you instructing the designer not to operate through natural selection ? 4 billion years is long for you, not that long for the eternal, necessary being.
And one more thing: you can't explain away the necessity of a conscious designer by invoking accidents, it's not logically necessary that a perfect being should create perfect worlds ruled by perfect processes. And I already warned you that the concepts of waste and efficiency are vacuous for a being with unlimited resources.