RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
December 17, 2020 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: December 17, 2020 at 4:24 pm by R00tKiT.)
(December 15, 2020 at 5:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Sure I can rule it out, and have. You can only be describing some problem that you have.
No, you cannot. If you could, you would've given some deductive argument doing so.
(December 15, 2020 at 5:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If we can't say the same thing about moral issues, then moral issues aren't issues that people can be demonstrably mistaken about. You are, again, appealing to disagreement, and it's no more successful this time than the last..or, the next..I'm sure.
Yes, I am appealing to disagreement. Because there is disagreement over the definitions of good and evil. There cannot be an objective list of good/bad moral deeds in the absence of an absolute moral authority. I think you already conceaded this point, the latter has to be there, we just disagree on what it is.
(December 15, 2020 at 5:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Sounds like another you problem, not my problem. I'm not a relativist, there's no wrong to bob, or wrong to steve, or wrong to allah, or wrong to jill for me to choose between. There's just whether something is right, or wrong.
I know, you are a moral realist. And I already showed you the flaw of your position: you are simply begging the question of right and wrong. Something is considered right, according to moral realism, if it is .... right.
