RE: New video of pipe bomb suspect released.
January 30, 2021 at 8:19 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2021 at 8:41 pm by Rev. Rye.)
Hypothesis and Allegation aren't mutually exclusive.
Definitions (all provided by the Oxford English Dictionary):
*Note on that last bit: Before you dismiss it as an Argument from Authority, bear in mind, there's a fallacious and a non-fallacious version of the Argument from Authority:
Fallacious version:
P1: Experts on X are usually correct about X. (In which case, read Experts as "the police or whatever you think we're getting our info from" and X as "the pipe bombs being placed")
P2: Those experts say P is correct. (For P, read: "the claim that a Trump supporter planted the bombs at the RNC and DNC".)
C: Therefore P is definitely correct.
Non-Fallacious Version:
P1: Experts on a subject are usually correct.
P2: Experts on the subject have a consensus that P is correct. (For Experts, read "the people who are investigating the subject and have spoken to the press about it, and keep P the same as the previous example.)
C: P is probably correct.
I (and presumably most of us here) are arguing the non-fallacious version, with a caveat that the consensus in P2 only relates to what the public can figure out. If you can't tell the difference, maybe shut your face.
Definitions (all provided by the Oxford English Dictionary):
- Hypothesis: A supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.
- Allegation: A claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof.
- Accusation: A charge or claim that someone has done something illegal or wrong.
*Note on that last bit: Before you dismiss it as an Argument from Authority, bear in mind, there's a fallacious and a non-fallacious version of the Argument from Authority:
Fallacious version:
P1: Experts on X are usually correct about X. (In which case, read Experts as "the police or whatever you think we're getting our info from" and X as "the pipe bombs being placed")
P2: Those experts say P is correct. (For P, read: "the claim that a Trump supporter planted the bombs at the RNC and DNC".)
C: Therefore P is definitely correct.
Non-Fallacious Version:
P1: Experts on a subject are usually correct.
P2: Experts on the subject have a consensus that P is correct. (For Experts, read "the people who are investigating the subject and have spoken to the press about it, and keep P the same as the previous example.)
C: P is probably correct.
I (and presumably most of us here) are arguing the non-fallacious version, with a caveat that the consensus in P2 only relates to what the public can figure out. If you can't tell the difference, maybe shut your face.
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