(November 3, 2011 at 8:29 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Actually "Tex" you don't have a leg to stand on regarding 5th's line of questioning. If you will refer to Post #3 and Post #9, 5thHorseman was very gracious and accepted the answers given without the slightest comment as to their credibility.
You seriously think he didn’t already know the Christian position on such matters? I don’t think you give 5th enough credit, he’s a sharp fellow.
Quote: Ace is a straight shooter. I'm not sure how that implies that I am not, but you certainly have a right to your opinion of me.
No implying required; your actions on here more than attest to the fact that you are not one.
(November 3, 2011 at 9:42 pm)I_Blaspheme Wrote: From my perspective, you find meaning in faith and scripture, I find mine elsewhere. To each his own. For what its worth, I can understand why a person of faith might take offense to it.
…kudos for the two cents and of course the ESP guitar in your signature.
(November 3, 2011 at 9:45 pm)Phaedra Wrote: Quite the contrary, actually.
Why is that?
(November 4, 2011 at 1:54 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Yes "if" the universe was created for us. Perhaps it wasn't. So why don't we do away with the 'ifs' and stick to what we know now. Which is we don't know. Nothing proves we are significant, but we do have reason to assume we're not.
First of all, I am sorry about what happened to you at work, that sort of stuff really sucks. Well I guess the difference between us is that you believe we know that we are insignificant because we were not created, I believe we can know we are significant because we were created. So now it’s a bit of a Mexican standoff.
Quote:That hypothetical scenarios does pull apart your argument because it demonstrates that it's too early to make wild and large assumptions about us and the cosmos, we don't know what's out there. So why assume we're the reason for the universe? Perhaps we'll discover an advanced race which was the whole point of the universe and not us. We are in the same boat. We both don't know what's out there. We both just don't know.
Well I think we are going to miss each other on this one as well because we start at different starting points. I know we are significant because scripture says we are, you reject scripture’s authority so you don’t believe we are significant. So it’s a difference of viewpoints really.
Quote:We are aware that there are life capable planets out there. 500 million life capable planets (est) in each galaxy which is over at least 200 billion. Statistically speaking, the chance of life on other worlds is effing huge! But 'if' we are the only life in the universe, then yeah, we're special. But if there are other life covered worlds, all of a sudden we're not so special anymore. It's like thinking your the only A star student in school and feel very special, only to learn that 200 others did just as well.
Well having life capable planets doesn’t prove there is other life out there, I am just going by what we have observed and we have been observed to be the only life in the universe.
Quote:Stat likes me!
Yeah you are fun to talk to, even when you are grumpy.
