RE: Bullshit "I'm an atheist but atheism is evil" article in the Grauniad boils my blood
March 29, 2021 at 6:42 am
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(March 28, 2021 at 1:50 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: The cool thing about secularized societies is that we don't have some narrative jammed down our throats. Flimsy narratives are much preferred to substantial ones.
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote: I do think there are a number of secular narratives that are widespread.Really? name them. Describe them.
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Whether we should consider these "jammed down our throats," or "substantial" I'm not sure.Well, if you regard facts as being stuffing reality down your throat, go ahead. Reality doesn't care and simply keeps on being reality regardless of your personal preferences, whatever those might be.
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote: One popular narrative is that the current of history moves toward a less religious society,That is not a narrative, that is history. I.E. that has and is observably happening as we speak
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote: with the superstition of religion dropping away to reveal scientific truth.That is not how science works. That is not how anything works.
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote: In the US of course there's the whole narrative about America being a progressive force for good in the world.Wrong on so many levels.
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote: And a common one is that as tech gets better the world is improved.Life expectancy at the time of jebus? 30-40 at a stretch. Life expectancy today? 80-90. Why, because "tech" has enabled that.
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote: The truth of each of these is debatable.BS. Are you really going to sit there and claim that the more than doubling of life expectancy is somehow NOT due to technology? Are you really going to claim that the smart phone or whatever device you happen to to use is weirdly not a result of technology? Well, off you go to your "get out of jail" taqtique. Tell us all what Plato, Aristotle, Aquinus and Augustine of Hippo had to say about smart phones.
(March 28, 2021 at 3:47 pm)Belacqua Wrote: What's important I think is that these narratives are accepted as fact by many people.Wrong again. Those are not "accepted as facts". Those are facts. Or are you shaping up to make the claim that human life expectancy has not more than doubled because of science, but because of some imaginary increase in the lurv of jebus.
