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Understanding transgenderism.
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RE: Understanding transgenderism.
(April 30, 2021 at 4:04 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(April 30, 2021 at 2:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Social constructs are real things.  So are concerns and frustrations rooted in constructs.  Heres a rabbit hole for you.  West virginia has the highest percentage of transgender teens in the us.

Do we think that's an effect of a local breeding pop in west virginia?  That there was some supercollection of trans carriers fucking about two decades ago blipping the charts today?  Seems unlikely.  At any rate, little about gender makes any sense at all, under any view - in that sense...but that doesn't mean that gender can't be made sense of outside of those nonsensical gender assertions which color our perception as minds embodied in societies.

By that logic, sexual orientation is also purely a social construct (see below).  That's obviously wrong somewhere along the way.  Other than that, your entire argument is ipse dixit, which is a polite way of saying that you're talking out of your ass.  Do you have any medical or scientific evidence supporting your view.  I've already provided evidence that you're wrong, and so far you haven't addressed it.
By what logic?  Sex is not an idea or theory comprised of multiple conceptual elements, subjective, and not based on empirical data. Preferring one sex over another stymies gender. You might like flat chested muscular girls as a guy. Soft effeminate boys as a girl, etc. They aren't just different things, they're not even the same kind of thing. You might even be a trans person with cis-appropriate sexual orientations. Being trans is not the same thing as being straight or gay. For all of these reasons, none of them arguable in any way shape or form, conflating one with the other is ludicrous.

Claiming otherwise, even as a prop to some doomed objection, is a running category error. There is absolutely no evidence for biological essentialism in gender, all evidence points to the contrary...and, as much as you might object to this being an ipse dixit argument,...sometimes, things really just are the way they are. This is one of those times. An understanding of transgenderism is rooted in gender, not sex. Culture, not biology. Subjective appraisals, not empirical facts.
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Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 26, 2021 at 8:23 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 26, 2021 at 8:24 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 26, 2021 at 8:28 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 26, 2021 at 8:29 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 26, 2021 at 8:31 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jackalope - April 26, 2021 at 6:04 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 26, 2021 at 7:04 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - April 27, 2021 at 1:44 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 27, 2021 at 4:02 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 26, 2021 at 8:34 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 26, 2021 at 9:00 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 26, 2021 at 9:01 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 26, 2021 at 9:34 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 26, 2021 at 9:40 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 26, 2021 at 10:44 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Duty - April 26, 2021 at 9:04 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by zwanzig - April 26, 2021 at 9:17 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Rev. Rye - April 26, 2021 at 11:04 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 26, 2021 at 11:53 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Angrboda - April 26, 2021 at 12:01 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 26, 2021 at 12:08 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by downbeatplumb - April 26, 2021 at 12:39 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 26, 2021 at 12:43 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 26, 2021 at 3:21 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Abaddon_ire - April 26, 2021 at 5:47 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by arewethereyet - April 26, 2021 at 9:06 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Divinity - April 27, 2021 at 10:54 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2021 at 12:16 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 30, 2021 at 1:47 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 30, 2021 at 3:13 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 30, 2021 at 7:08 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - May 1, 2021 at 3:53 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by HappySkeptic - April 28, 2021 at 2:22 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2021 at 3:19 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 28, 2021 at 9:23 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2021 at 9:34 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 9:41 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2021 at 10:16 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 28, 2021 at 9:45 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2021 at 9:51 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 28, 2021 at 10:00 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 10:43 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2021 at 10:48 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 10:55 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2021 at 11:06 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 11:07 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 28, 2021 at 11:09 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2021 at 11:10 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 28, 2021 at 11:11 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 11:13 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 28, 2021 at 11:17 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 11:22 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 28, 2021 at 11:23 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 11:35 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 28, 2021 at 11:38 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by arewethereyet - April 28, 2021 at 11:40 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 28, 2021 at 11:42 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 11:47 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 28, 2021 at 11:52 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 11:57 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 29, 2021 at 12:03 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 29, 2021 at 12:06 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Angrboda - April 29, 2021 at 10:07 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 29, 2021 at 10:28 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 29, 2021 at 10:44 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Angrboda - April 29, 2021 at 10:50 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 29, 2021 at 10:50 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 29, 2021 at 11:03 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 29, 2021 at 1:25 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 29, 2021 at 2:06 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 29, 2021 at 3:58 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 29, 2021 at 4:02 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 29, 2021 at 5:29 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 29, 2021 at 5:15 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 29, 2021 at 5:55 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 30, 2021 at 7:55 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Silver - April 30, 2021 at 1:15 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 30, 2021 at 1:52 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 30, 2021 at 2:42 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 30, 2021 at 2:53 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 30, 2021 at 2:58 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Angrboda - April 30, 2021 at 4:04 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - April 30, 2021 at 3:14 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 30, 2021 at 3:17 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - April 30, 2021 at 3:37 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - April 30, 2021 at 3:42 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by HappySkeptic - April 30, 2021 at 4:04 pm
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Rev. Rye - May 1, 2021 at 4:37 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - May 1, 2021 at 7:55 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by The Grand Nudger - May 1, 2021 at 9:43 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Angrboda - May 1, 2021 at 11:16 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - May 1, 2021 at 10:04 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by John 6IX Breezy - May 1, 2021 at 11:37 am
RE: Understanding transgenderism. - by Jehanne - May 1, 2021 at 2:20 pm

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