RE: Questions for theists.
November 7, 2011 at 8:10 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2011 at 8:13 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(November 4, 2011 at 9:41 pm)Phaedra Wrote: I for one wanted those of you who believe in hell and eternal punishment to realize that the entire concept is based on vindictive hatred and cruelty, re-examine your thoughts on it, and reject it completely. OR, at the very least, inform us that you do not believe that such a fate awaits our sweet grannies because your God is loving and welcomes everyone who lived a life of kindness, compassion, and love into heaven regardless of whether or not they believed in him (which is what I believed when I was a Christian).
If left to their own nature there would be no such thing as a “sweet granny”, they are only sweet because of the common grace granted to them by God. So they cannot lean on the good works that God has helped them do to save themselves from God’s perfect justice. The God of scripture is perfectly loving but also perfectly just; if someone was allowed into heaven without Christ atoning for them then God would no longer be perfectly just. I find it interesting though that you appeal to justice but given your view of the world my sweet granny gets the same justice as Joseph Stalin, which is none. My granny dies and is gone forever, Stalin commits atrocity after atrocity and dies and is gone forever. Where is the justice in that system?
(November 4, 2011 at 9:47 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: That's what happens when faith is more important than good works.
Good works are a result of genuine faith, which is a gift from God.
(November 4, 2011 at 10:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Sorry, son but your dead jewish carpenter coming back to life, flying off to heaven and coming back for you some time or other to bring your sorry ass to fucking "heaven" is a fairy tale of the first magnitude.
Unless you have evidence.
Which you don't.
Actually asserting Christianity is a fairy tale is a positive assertion which would require evidence, do you have any?
