Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims

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Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims

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RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims

May 23, 2021 at 6:51 am

Jesus was supposed to have suffered to expiate the guilt which everyone was supposed to have inherited from the Original Sin committed by Adam and Eve. He didn't die to expiate the guilt of sins committed later. Well, at least that's what I was taught in Catholic schools.

"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)

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