RE: Right of freedom of religion should not be a human right
May 25, 2021 at 9:43 pm
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2021 at 9:48 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 25, 2021 at 12:42 pm)Drich Wrote: because that's what children naturally do.. they rebell and shit on what their parents believe and try and figure things out for themselves having history repeat it self over and over. lest you introduce a supreme authority which has all the generational traps and pit falls already identified and laid out. once they can see life doesn't have to be lived making the same generational mistakes then the reasons why click inAre you saying that as a man with many children who rebelled against the things you taught them or claimed to be true? I have five, none of them have ever disagreed with the contents of the hypothetical religion described. Children rebel against some beliefs and not others. Perhaps the general impression of the rebelliousness of children has to do with the risible absurdity of some specific collection or type of beliefs? Nature as metaphysically ultimate and responsibilities to our fellow man and our planet vs sky wizards who watch you while you pee.
(May 25, 2021 at 9:09 pm)Macoleco Wrote: It’s very important to understand what I refer to when I say religion. Mainly the biggest religions (Christianity, Islam, etc), which know have caused immense damage to humanity and have no evidence for what they claim.Religion isn't incapable of being based on the same, insomuch as it isn't - that's optional. Your issue is with particular expressions or types of religions, not religion et al. It might be more accurate to state that you don't believe that people should have the right to a predatory form of abrahamism rather than the notion the people should not have the right to freedom of religion.
In your example, I guess it would depend on what is taught. But what you described looks more like a philosophical point of view, not a religion. Therefore, limiting education to only that philosophy of nature and not exploring different point of views would be bad too. It also should be subject to criticism.
What should be taught is science and humanities, as both encourage questioning and are based on logic and evidence.
FWIW, I agree with that sentiment. I think that any predatory anything has passed the boundary in which individual liberty is the relevant metric. I don't think that people should be free to fuck with people or con people or abuse people. If a particular religion or form of religion depends on these things I believe that it's gone beyond the freedom that any right might afford it. The us government agrees, officially, though it doesn't necessarrily consider the list of such religions to be equivalent to your own. That probably has something to do with a bunch of americans being dominionist christians who would agree with you in every particular until you applied it to christianity- who knows.
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