RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
June 7, 2021 at 12:44 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2021 at 12:45 pm by Fake Messiah.)
(June 7, 2021 at 12:22 pm)ronedee Wrote: No one has answered the question, "...is the fetus a baby"? Science is pretty clear.
If yes, then the answer is simple.
As for any murder? Select a degree of; culpability & severity. And, I'm sure this will even be "worked" around
in the courts. If there are penalties for ending a life it may become more important to society. Instead of the
caviler approach that is now acceptable towards ending a life.
A small child understands that it is a great loss. When we lost a child, (stillborn @ 18wks.) my 5 years old cried for days over it! Why? Because even a child knows the value of human life. And w/o knowing, or seeing the baby!
God help us, that this is even a debate!
People who decide to have an abortion usually do it in the first few weeks, like a six-week-old fetal pole and gestational sac are as big as a lima bean. And before twenty-two weeks, a fetus is not in any way equal to “a baby” or “a child.” It cannot survive outside the uterus because it cannot breathe—not even on a respirator. It cannot form anything like thoughts.
People who decide later, do it because there are problems with the fetus or the mother.
That is because anomalies on a fetus are not discovered until after twenty weeks. After all, up until that point, major organ systems are too small and indistinct for sonogram technology to capture them. Sometimes a fetus has anencephaly: it has a brain stem but is missing some or most of the brain or cranium. Or it will have renal agenesis: no kidneys. Or something doctors call “limb-body wall complex,” in which organs develop outside the fetal body cavity. And so on.
In this kind of case, it is merciful for the fetus not to develop into a baby.
For example, there are cases where fundamental Christians opt to bring the pregnancy to a term of fetuses with the Potter syndrome because they expect a miracle to happen. Then the doctors must watch the baby as it dies in pain after birth because it can not breathe since it doesn't have lungs.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
