RE: The reason religion is so powerful
June 8, 2021 at 10:47 am
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2021 at 11:00 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:Personhood is something we all lack, is it not? It must be ascribed by a governing body.Nope
(June 8, 2021 at 10:47 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:Indeed his scenario fails to give agency to the characters(June 8, 2021 at 10:19 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: In the event of a fire, would you save an elderly person over an infant on the basis that they have a story, loved ones, and a coherent inner life? I don't think you would, given that society places value on children (but maybe you would). Perhaps the issue here has to do with faulty object permanence: The younger the individuals the more value is placed on their life, until it crosses into the womb and becomes "out of sight out of mind."
p.s. I didn't realize there were two abortion threads going on at once lol.
That's an excellent question. If I had to make a choice, I would save the baby. It's not unlikely the elderly person would want me to save the baby too. All stories must come to an end, and I personally would rather have mine wrapped up a few pages sooner than I planned than live with the knowledge that my survival came at the cost of someone with their whole life in front of them.
You could also ask whether I would save a pregnant woman over a woman not carrying who were about the same age, knowing nothing else about them. I would save the pregnant woman, on the assumption that she both wants to live and give birth, so it would be a twofer. Or how about if I had a choice to save a baby or an embryo in a tube?
This isn't about whether it's desirable that a viable fetus survive to be born hypothetically. It's about whether that is enough to justify forcing a woman to give birth against her will, regardless of the woman's ability to carry to term safely, the circumstances of the impregnation, her ability to raise a child, the welfare of other children she may already have, her ability to climb out of poverty, or anything else. That is, whether forcing a woman to give birth against her will (forced labor!) is more important than her human dignity.
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“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM