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Why God doesn't stop satan?
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RE: Why God doesn't stop satan?
(June 8, 2021 at 6:36 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(June 8, 2021 at 6:14 pm)Helios Wrote: I must disagree that freewill is sufficient  to explain evil

What kind of an answer is that. Do you consider yourself some expert philosopher of religion?

(June 8, 2021 at 5:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course it is. What’s not compatible with free will is the Abrahamic god.

Boru

How is that. If an all-powerful God wants his creatures to have free will, then there is no contradiction. And BTW under the theistic assumption it is God who put this moral compass and repugnance toward evil within us. We created laws and jurisdictions to stop evil precisely because of this inner compass.

In any case, the problem of evil has nothing to do with God's existence but only with His omnibenevolence, and Plantinga solved this logical problem decades ago.

The Abrahamic god - by definition - created everything. Choices are things. The consequences of choices are things. If God created everything, then our choices and the consequences thereof are created by God, and freewill isn't possible.

Of course, I suppose it could be argued that God didn't create everything, which would mean that there are things outside of God's control, rendering him something less than all-powerful, but that's a problem for your lot.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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