(June 8, 2021 at 8:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Theistic mental gymnastics at their finest(June 8, 2021 at 7:20 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: This is a non-sequitur. It doesn't follow from the premise that free will is not possible. It's true that all our actions and their consequences are God's creation, but this doesn't mean they contradict the free will he endowed us with. God creates a sequence of actions which are exactly those an individual will undertake with his own free will. There is nothing logically contradictory about this operation, and it's trivial for an all-powerful being to do it.
Oh, rubbish. You can’t have it both ways. If actions and consequences are God’s creation, then God has always known that some people are going to Hell, no matter what they do - they are unable to make choices that will prevent their going to Hell, because all of these so-called ‘choices’ have already been made FOR them.
And - to return to the topic - this is the very quintessence of evil: to knowingly create people for the express purpose of seeing them eternally damned.
Boru
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
