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The reason religion is so powerful
RE: The reason religion is so powerful
(June 9, 2021 at 8:56 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(June 9, 2021 at 5:52 am)brewer Wrote: I think you should read about acardiac/trap twin, and take note of the effect on the pump twin. Then come back and talk to us about the trap twins inherent value.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3939538/

Given that you are a retired medical professional I'm surprised you question the value of the acardiac twin. The appropriate response is clearly to look for an early intervention to prevent any developmental anomalies, and blood perfusion problems, from ever occurring in the acardiac twin.

The goal of medicine should be to save both twins, not classify one as worthless from the start, wouldn't you agree?

And insofar as you do classify one as valueless and not the other you are proving Neo's point. Such differentiation wouldn't be possible unless embryos are living human organisms from conception, and could lose their life and development. Unless your response is that both the normal twin and the acardiac twin are equal to each other before they are born, I'm not sure how this helps your case.

Your response is either willful ignorance to continue the argument or some kind of childish fantasy.

The trap twin is incompatible with life outside the womb (exactly what  acardiac[no heart] implies) and poses a high mortality rate for the pump twin. There is no known 'early intervention' to save the trap twin. By the time it's discovered it's already to late, no turning back the fetal development clock. The intervention to save the pump twin is to eliminate the trap twin.

This isn't about classification or value but biological/medical facts. One has a chance to live, one not, sometimes both not.

All unborn humans have inherent value and rights is an unsupportable statement. I gave Neo a chance to define/redefine his argument and got no response.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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The reason religion is so powerful - by Macoleco - June 6, 2021 at 3:29 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by no one - June 6, 2021 at 3:41 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 6, 2021 at 8:18 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Belacqua - June 6, 2021 at 8:27 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 6, 2021 at 8:59 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Abaddon_ire - June 6, 2021 at 12:12 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 6, 2021 at 1:34 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 6, 2021 at 8:02 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Brian37 - June 6, 2021 at 12:30 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Brian37 - June 7, 2021 at 1:34 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 7, 2021 at 4:33 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 7, 2021 at 5:41 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 8, 2021 at 3:21 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ravenshire - June 8, 2021 at 3:44 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Brian37 - June 7, 2021 at 5:20 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Brian37 - June 8, 2021 at 10:17 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Belacqua - June 9, 2021 at 4:26 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 10, 2021 at 6:05 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Belacqua - June 10, 2021 at 7:18 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 10, 2021 at 8:02 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 8, 2021 at 10:23 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 8, 2021 at 10:06 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ravenshire - June 8, 2021 at 5:20 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ravenshire - June 8, 2021 at 5:56 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Belacqua - June 8, 2021 at 7:06 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by R00tKiT - June 8, 2021 at 7:37 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 8, 2021 at 8:42 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 9, 2021 at 5:52 am
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 9, 2021 at 6:48 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Belacqua - June 9, 2021 at 7:26 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 9, 2021 at 8:09 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 9, 2021 at 8:27 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Belacqua - June 9, 2021 at 8:50 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 9, 2021 at 2:56 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Astreja - June 9, 2021 at 1:33 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 8, 2021 at 11:36 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ravenshire - June 9, 2021 at 12:10 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ravenshire - June 9, 2021 at 1:03 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 9, 2021 at 1:12 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ravenshire - June 8, 2021 at 10:20 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ravenshire - June 9, 2021 at 12:06 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ranjr - June 8, 2021 at 10:28 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 9, 2021 at 1:40 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Mister Agenda - June 14, 2021 at 10:13 am
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 15, 2021 at 3:10 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 15, 2021 at 6:51 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 15, 2021 at 9:35 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Pat Mustard - June 16, 2021 at 4:31 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by no one - June 9, 2021 at 3:03 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ranjr - June 9, 2021 at 11:15 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Pat Mustard - June 10, 2021 at 1:12 am
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Abaddon_ire - June 10, 2021 at 12:29 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 19, 2021 at 7:05 am
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 19, 2021 at 2:38 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 19, 2021 at 2:43 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 19, 2021 at 2:50 am
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 19, 2021 at 10:45 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 19, 2021 at 1:42 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Abaddon_ire - June 19, 2021 at 6:53 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ranjr - June 19, 2021 at 8:44 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by brewer - June 19, 2021 at 10:27 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Astreja - June 21, 2021 at 3:20 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by R00tKiT - June 19, 2021 at 11:04 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 19, 2021 at 10:50 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by arewethereyet - June 19, 2021 at 10:43 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 19, 2021 at 11:04 pm
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RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Silver - June 19, 2021 at 11:12 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Angrboda - June 19, 2021 at 11:05 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Angrboda - June 20, 2021 at 1:02 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ranjr - June 20, 2021 at 10:40 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Belacqua - June 20, 2021 at 10:51 pm
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Ranjr - June 21, 2021 at 8:16 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by Drich - June 30, 2021 at 11:04 am
RE: The reason religion is so powerful - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 11:09 am
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