The reason religion is so powerful

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viable........live........ mincing words does not change the biologic facts.

JFC you're going to some extreme lengths. Yes, one has the potential for life outside the womb as my previous stated position to Neo.

I don't see any disagreement here; I just don't see the relevance. As long you understand that one of the twin is alive, great, viability just means it can remain so outside the womb. What does this have to do with the nature of the twins as human organisms?

You, like Neo, need to define human and then tie it to unborn rights and define those rights. I'll go back to one of my original positions and ask, is a hydatidiform mole, the result of conception, a human that should 'human' rights? That's where my disagreement with Neo began. Are you intentionally leaving unborn rights at the time of conception out of the discussion?

This all could have been simplified if Neo had just come out and said pro-live/anti-abortion instead of being deceptive.

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All unborn humans have inherent value and rights is an unsupportable statement...

I'm not sure that any rights could be considered "inherent."  Why inherent?  That implies that they're based on some demonstrable objective factor, rather than on social consensus (which is notorious for changing rapidly) or a particular philosophical viewpoint.

You'll have to engage Neo on this one, it's his position.

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Which part of to late by the time of diagnosis don't you understand?

The part where you act like this is an unsurmountable obstacle.

At this time it is. Why should I debate what might be possible in some hypothetical future?