RE: Why God doesn't stop satan?
June 10, 2021 at 4:15 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2021 at 4:23 pm by R00tKiT.)
(June 10, 2021 at 4:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I don't know, I think I just have to see another human to know that one. On a scale of 1-10, being our closeness to god, where do we rate? Are we a near god like 9....or a lowly 1...or?
Let's say a world didn't have gods in it, but did have humans in it. Do you think that this would be a sufficient basis for accepting the existence of other minds as a fact? Let's say a world had a god, but no humans. How about then, are there...other minds in that world?
Yes it would be a sufficient basis for accepting other minds. I am not advocating that people turn into solipsists and live alone in psychiatric hospitals, either.... The problem of other minds is only important because it doesn't have conclusive logical arguments, but only arguments of analogical or probabilistic type... An atheist's position is usually just that with regards to God. We say that apparent design around us is sufficient basis to accept there is a God, they want more... well, if you want more about God, why didn't you ask for more about other minds...?
(June 10, 2021 at 4:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: No, there are actually quite a bit of extra assumptions between “I accept that you exist,” and “I accept that a supreme being who created reality, maintains it, interacts with his creation, loves and has a plan for them, and will dole out ultimate justice in an afterlife exists.” Which is what you believe.
I agree it's not the same thing. But "appearance of design pointing to a designer" and "things that look like people point to other minds" aren't really very different. And, no reason to mention love, plans and afterlife for now. I don't claim these arguments lead all the way to a personal God.
