RE: Why God doesn't stop satan?
June 11, 2021 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2021 at 3:55 pm by Abaddon_ire.)
(June 11, 2021 at 3:40 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(June 11, 2021 at 2:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: And six month ago, I told you that this is exactly my position : that everything is designed, including snowflakes and rocks. I already know we don't agree on the definition of design, although this needs a separate thread to discuss it more thoroughly.
And why would that be a denial to what scientists say about natural processes???
Because a snowflake developing via natural processes, regardless of whether or not god spurred those natural processes, is not equivalent to god hand-assembling the snowflake himself. You are trying to use the same word two different ways depending on which portion of your argument it suits. You are equivocating. You need to go back to the drawling board and put together a new argument; one that doesn’t contain a logical fallacy.
Oh that gives rise to even more fun. It used to be claimed that every snowflake was unique. Therefore gawd. Then science, through hard work and research, discovered this was not true. What did the god-botherers do? Admit defeat? Concede?
Hell no. God was merely using a template like you or I would with a Word document. Now they have to account for why their god is some sort of lazy bastard and omnipotence goes right out. Omnipresent goes as well, because god simply writes a script or macro and foxtrots right oscar without a care. Let the script barf the snowflakes, god don't care. Omni-benevolent? Well if the bitch can't be bothered, that becomes rather suspect as well. god might as well create Santa. At least Santa is reliable. Or more reliable than god.
(June 11, 2021 at 3:44 pm)Astreja Wrote:(June 11, 2021 at 3:09 pm)Astreja Wrote: *bursts out laughing* That's such an absurd position to hold that I'm intensely glad to be a non-believer.
(June 11, 2021 at 3:14 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: In what way it's absurd? Rocks and snowflakes are maybe useless to you...
Stop. Right. There! Usefulness and uselessness have nothing to do with whether or not something was designed.
Interesting that Kloro is invoking dominionism, a christian doctrine.