RE: Why God doesn't stop satan?
June 11, 2021 at 4:18 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2021 at 4:21 pm by R00tKiT.)
(June 11, 2021 at 3:44 pm)Astreja Wrote: Stop. Right. There! Usefulness and uselessness have nothing to do with whether or not something was designed.
Yeah that's what I just said, LOL. What then, according to you, enables us to discern design from non-design, aside from usefulness of course.
(June 11, 2021 at 3:52 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Oh that gives rise to even more fun. It used to be claimed that every snowflake was unique. Therefore gawd. Then science, through hard work and research, discovered this was not true. What did the god-botherers do? Admit defeat? Concede?
Hell no. God was merely using a template like you or I would with a Word document. Now they have to account for why their god is some sort of lazy bastard and omnipotence goes right out. Omnipresent goes as well, because god simply writes a script or macro and foxtrots right oscar without a care. Let the script barf the snowflakes, god don't care. Omni-benevolent? Well if the bitch can't be bothered, that becomes rather suspect as well. god might as well create Santa. At least Santa is reliable. Or more reliable than god.
Keep shouting. It's not my problem that you don't understand the limits of science and observation.
(June 10, 2021 at 3:07 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Which axioms would those be, for you and the atheist?
Aside from God's existence, we all share the first principles of thought (identity, non-contradiction, excluded middle) and our own existence as axioms. Unfortunately they are not enough to prove that there is an external reality, that's why Descartes was a theist, he understood that without presupposing God we are just stuck with solipsism.