(June 22, 2021 at 1:03 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(June 22, 2021 at 12:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No, nonsense about Huxley, the word ‘agnostic’, Orwell, and super cognition.
Boru
Huxley invented a word that did not exist in ancient Greece.
He cobbled the prefix "a" with "gnostic" or "gnosis" suffix. That combo never existed in the original Greek language.
"a" meant "without" "gnosis" means knowledge. But "without knowledge" does not denote what someone is "without knowledge of".
So if we are to use Huxley's word properly, it can only be a qualifier word that can be used between "agnostic theist" or "agnostic atheist".
An a outright theist would be a Christian, or Muslim who claims to know that their god is absolutely real. An "agnostic theist" would be one who leans to a God being real, but admits they don't know for sure. Conversely, an outright atheist claims their is no God. Whereas an "agnostic atheist" leans to no God/gods existing but isn't sure.
Huxley fucked up by trying to make "I don't know" a stand alone word, when in reality if we insist on using that word, it is only pragmatic in being a qualifying word.
And what is wrong with rightfully stating that the omi concept of a God is Orwellian. It knows everything, it sees everything, even when you shit and pee and have sex. I'd call such a claim Orwellian.
"Super cognition" is my term for "God", a mythological superman.
I didn't really need the lecture on the etymology of 'agnostic'. Here's what Huxley said about it:
'Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe. Consequently, agnosticism puts aside not only the greater part of popular theology, but also the greater part of anti-theology. On the whole, the "bosh" of heterodoxy is more offensive to me than that of orthodoxy, because heterodoxy professes to be guided by reason and science, and orthodoxy does not.' He clearly did not intend it to apply ONLY to religious belief.
And so what if it wasn't an ancient Greek word? It's a perfectly acceptable word, both grammatically and in meaning. People coin words all the time.
You moved the goalposts again. Earlier, you didn't say the concept of an omni God is Orwellian. You said super cognition is Orwellian. It isn't. Nor is it a requirement for a prime mover to be super cognitive, or for a super cognate to be a prime mover.
Boru
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