(June 22, 2021 at 3:10 pm)pocaracas Wrote: God damn Word copy-pasta with formatting!!
As someone who uses the moniker atheist to describe himself, I do not believe that such a god as you describe exists.
This is not synonymous with "I believe that a god such as you describe does not exist", although someone like this could also use the atheist moniker.
I too see no reason to suspect that a god is impossible to exist (using exist here as a placeholder for existence in a form other than the imaginary, and the physical, given that I assume we are excluding those two from the equation since god is described as the creator of the physical and we don't want to keep this entity in the realm of human imagination).
And I have no reason to suspect that such an entity is necessary. Quantum foam and other weird stuff should be enough to account for the known Universe.
I do, however, see enough evidence to posit a guess in one way. That way tells me that god is a man made construct and, like I said, quantum foam could provide a natural way for the Universe to arise from the emptiness of vacuum. As such, god probably does not exist out of human (or other intelligent and imaginative) minds.
You wrote: As someone who uses the moniker atheist to describe himself, I do not believe that such a god as you describe exists.
This is not synonymous with "I believe that a god such as you describe does not exist", although someone like this could also use the atheist moniker.
RESPONSE: We are in agreement that saying, "I do not believe that such a god as (I) describe exists" is substantially different from "I believe such a god does not exist." I will talk about that difference many times if this discussion goes forward. (I'm not yet convinced it will.)
You wrote: And I have no reason to suspect that such an entity is necessary. Quantum foam and other weird stuff should be enough to account for the known Universe.
RESPONSE: I agree. There is absolutely no reason to suspect such an entity is necessary. But it is still possible such an entity exists.
You wrote: I too see no reason to suspect that a god is impossible to exist (using exist here as a placeholder for existence in a form other than the imaginary, and the physical, given that I assume we are excluding those two from the equation since god is described as the creator of the physical and we don't want to keep this entity in the realm of human imagination).
RESPONSE: Not entirely sure of your point here. Gods are possible. We can leave it at that.
You wrote: I do, however, see enough evidence to posit a guess in one way. That way tells me that god is a man made construct and, like I said, quantum foam could provide a natural way for the Universe to arise from the emptiness of vacuum. As such, god probably does not exist out of human (or other intelligent and imaginative) minds.
RESPONSE: I see no unambiguous evidence whatever in either direction on the question. Theists seem to see lots of evidence that at least one god exists; atheists seem to see lots of evidence that none exist. Confirmation bias, as I see it.
I do agree that the Abrahamic god, like the many gods that pre-date it, seem to be made-made constructs. BUT…gods may exist.
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