(June 30, 2021 at 7:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(June 30, 2021 at 7:29 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: You're free to label yourself an animal. Believers at least think there is a god who privileged their species (atheists included OFC).
Animals also regularly murder their own kind.. If we were to consider murder as natural. Then, really, this naturalness criterion should be set aside for now.
Animals - apart from humans - do not ever, ever EVER murder their own kind. It isn’t possible for them to do so.
Are you serious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide_(zoology)
https://www.futurity.org/ants-fighting-1105442-2/
https://www.newscientist.com/article/211...er-tyrant/
(June 30, 2021 at 7:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We also regularly murder our own kind, but that’s not what makes something an animal... and I still think we need to be clear that there’s nothing that animals do that can be called unnatural.
So, in addition to understanding that the entire inference was false, the asserted facts managed to be false as well.
Is that something that you feel might need correcting?
I already defined what I mean by natural = any action that serves our instincts of survival+procreation. Murder is the antithesis of survival => unnatural by definition.
If natural means = anything animals do. It follows that murder is natural, and thus naturalness is a useless criterion when discussing human morality.
