Atheism: The True Path?

[Kyuuketsuki]

Sorry but I've read the first sentence several times and I don't understand what you are saying. Faith/theology at least answer what questions?

They answer questions of the subject. Who is God; what we need to do to live healthily spiritually etc.

So questions with no discernable value then?

That doesn't make any sense ... the point of the gaps concept is that something is claimed to exist but has not been found yet and therefore is presumed (not unreasonably) to exist in the gaps of what we don't know/haven't explained as yet ... science makes no claims to explain things other than those things it actually has (at least partially) explained. In fact saying what you said is really rather naïve.

I make the point though that you're happy for there to be gaps in your understanding from science and can dismiss any need to think because 'one day, science will know everything'. That's my point.

You didn't make it very well then but, more to the point, conceding gaps in our knowledge, conceding that science is not absolute, that's its explanations are not necessarily the last word is an inherent strength in the philosophy and not a weakness as you appear to be implying.

The problem with a claim that god is timeless or exists out of time is that I can raise the claim that the multiverse has always existed, is timeless or exists out of time ... such a claim would be of equal validity or better (inasmuch as it least makes some rational sense, at least potentially explains some aspects of our universe whereas a creator god raises only problems for science, physics and reason) than yours.

It isn't a 'claim'. It's a reasonable proposition. At least quite equal to at your proposition that the multiverse is timeless. Your insistance that theological ideas are also scientific claims isn't of theology's making.

No it isn't because you have yet to demonstrate that your god exists ... I could equally well say the cosmic cream cake is timeless and exists outside of time and that would ALSO be meaningless ... defining something for which there is no validatable evidence and calling it god doesn't confer upon it some hyped value (over other silly ideas).

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Sorry to butt in, Kyu- I know you don't need or want me to, but I'll bleed through my eyes if I don't add a quick note of my own to the table.

Quite the contrary ... there are times I feel almost alone in fighting this kind of stuff. Frodo (as I think most of us will admit) is smart and relentless ... he must be stopped

Kyu