RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
August 20, 2021 at 5:06 pm
(August 20, 2021 at 4:39 pm)WinterHold Wrote:(August 20, 2021 at 11:49 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm with Bob on this one. If we're in the business of believing in facts rather than propaganda, with respect to the good the taliban has done or will do - it should be relatively simple to present an example or a hypothetical.
It's easy to do so in the case of the us in afghanistan, regardless of what one thinks about the us or us occupation in general. Quadrupled economy, nine times the children in schools, nearly thirty times the number of secondary school graduates. Even if there were no improvements in human rights this alone is a game changer for the people of a country, but, ofc..there has been such improvement, fueling those increases, no less. On the purely administrative side, there's the issue of a toehold into global policitcs that a regime seen to be illegitimate simply doesn't have - and how that empowers a country to pursue it's interests in that global community more effectively (to whatever extent it can, ofc).
Is there a plan that you're aware of from the taliban to even retain these gains, let alone make further improvement? I want to be clear here in what it is you might coonsider as improvement, even. If it boils down to your hating one group of people or one country so much that you'd sacrifice the citizens of another on the altar of seeing the first group inconvenienced or embarrassed (or whatever you think has happened) - well..that's just a non starter - to me.
I'd say this type of elaboration isn't just useful for an islamist cheering on the demise of his fellow muslims, but for the large amount of people in the west generally and the us particularly who were always opposed to this sort of intervention in afghanistan (or anywhere else, even).
1) The issue of the U,S invasion of Afghanistan is not a mere "problem" that can be avoided or forgiving: this is an act of terrorism the U.S must pay dearly for, for every Muslim and non-Muslim soul ruined through these 20 years because of the invasion; I'm speaking about War reparations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_reparations
The corruption America did in Afghanistan must be payed for dearly (and Muslims accept cash; money). Muslims are only despised and weak because they stopped taking the price of the corruption caused by other nations.
2) Who are you to speak with a high-nose -as if you were a saint-; again? last thing we saw; are the wheels of your iron birds crushing Afghans into bloody smear while taking off; with "dogs" on your planes; and masses of Afghans begging you to take them with you!
War reparations. Pay.
In gold too; Nudger. Not fake American "toilet papers" (i.e Dollars).
Pay? Pay for what? Irrespective of the causes of the war and the thumb-fingered way it was managed, it isn’t sensibly deniable that Afghans were better off while the US kept those Taliban thugs at bay.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax