(August 27, 2021 at 10:08 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(August 27, 2021 at 10:00 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Wouldn't that suggest that religions of gods don't actually provide those things, then, if people who don't follow them -rightly or wrongly- can still assert those values? It seems self demonstratingly true that these beliefs we have about value need not and often do not arise out of beliefs about a god.Education can be valued by atheists and theists alike, as can attachment to temporal things. But devotion, true devotion, can only be experienced by theists. There is a certain ineffable quality to the idea of God, or gods, that not only cannot be replaced by atheism, but honestly, is so much more beautiful than atheism, that it makes atheism seem disgusting, by comparison.
Don't forget about all of those mean nasty gods. It's not like there is only your sunshine and lollypops one.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
