Hey Portland - you might get what you deserve.

[Irreligious Atheist]

He didn't tell his rabid supporters to storm the capital building and to kill a cop. That never happened. Trump didn't think a bunch of MAGAtards were going to pull off a coup for him. Even Trump is not that insane.

For weeks he stoked his followers to violence and he all but told them to do it, Trump knew full well his antics were going to result in violence, And he is that insane.

Trump was massively irresponsible that day and shit went down in part due to his words. I don't deny that. We are entirely on the same page when it comes to this. But legally, he said be peaceful, so that gives him the legal out. I just don't see any way around that. So morally, we basically agree on this. The legality of the matter is where we differ. You say that he got his rabid supporters to storm the capital, and sure, that is sort of what happened, but you need to meet a very high legal standard to prove such a thing, and I don't think that can be done.

Trump was just irresponsible he knew actually what he was doing and what the result would be, And no calling for peace after weeks of doing the opposite doesn't give him a legal out in any wat shape, or form. He's responsible and he was not punished. Your attempts to downplay his role won't fly here.

Trump knew what they were going to do and had this all planned out for them to storm the capitol? Is that why he put out that message telling them to leave in peace after they stormed the building? Did Trump change his mind mid-faux coup or something? Trump is a pretty indecisive guy, isn't he? Plans a coup apparently and then changes his mind mid-coup haha. Likely story.

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I don't follow on the self defeating thing you are talking about. Can you go a little further in explaining that? Like I posted, experiments show that we subconsciously make decisions seconds in advance before our conscious mind is even aware of it. That rules out free will. Checkmate.

Subconscious decisions don't even come close to refuting free will. So no checkmate I'm afraid. But please keep providing the evidence for freewill 

You haven't won any argument when first of all, you refuse to even give me your definition of free will, so in actuality I have no idea what you mean when you post about it, and second of all, you won't even give me one name of someone to look up to get a more in depth look at what you're referring to in your posts. I'm not asking you to do research for me. I'll gladly do it.

My definition of free will btw, is the classical idea of free will. The idea the illusion is not just an illusion, and that you consciously can decide between one thing or another thing, and that you could have done otherwise.

If your actions are subconsciously decided seconds before you take those actions, then going by the classical idea of free will, you are not consciously making any decisions. Therefore, there is no free will. There is only will.