(September 6, 2021 at 4:49 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:(September 6, 2021 at 3:00 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: The reports that Trump was amused in the moment are not hard to believe. I can believe that. Still, that has nothing to do with him telling people to riot and kill, which never happened. He told people that we can't let them steal the election, and that you need to be strong but peaceful. That is nowhere near enough to impeach the man, imo, or to hold him accountable in a court of law or whatever. Trump was very clever in his choice of words. Legality and morality are two very different things. Let's be careful not to conflate them. You don't have a legal case that can hold up under scrutiny, I'm sorry to say.
Here's what legal scholar, Garrett Epps, concluded
Quote:Trump clearly knew there were people in that crowd who were ready to and intended to be violent, and he certainly did nothing to discourage that. He not only did nothing to discourage it, he strongly hinted it should happen.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55640437
And the key points of the speech that you forgot to mention:
'We won this election, and we won it by a landslide'
'We will stop the steal'
'We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen'
'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore'
Those things can be interpreted several ways. They can easily be interpreted as "We will stop the steal... by protesting hard in front of the Capitol and making our voices heard, and then winning in court." "If you don't fight like hell by letting your voices be heard, you're not going to have a country anymore." Interpretation is in the eye of the beholder when someone is unclear about exactly what they are asking for like Trump was doing with his supporters that day.
I'm not impressed by that legal scholar. Trump said be peaceful. Have you watched his speech? He literally told them to be peaceful. Anyone in any crowd could take a politicians words and be violent. Democrat politicians literally told people to harass Republican politicians in public, and they knew that some of them could take that the wrong way and be violent too. I don't want those Democratic politicians to be held legally accountable for anything either.