RE: If you had a button that would turn all theists into atheists and agnostic?
November 15, 2011 at 11:02 pm
OK, well I'm not going to keep on requoting everything because we'll be on at it for ever.
And yes you are a literal person (me not so much but I suppose I've got other strengths), but to bring up one point you made literally - "You can't believe in something you have not heard of yet." Yep, absolutely. You are right.
But - you also can't NOT believe in something you've not heard of yet. The thing is, this is also true. Because belief (or non belief) needs a subject matter, by definition. (belief = acceptance of a subject to be true without relying on evidence, non belief = non acceptance of a subject to be true)
So because belief requires an idea/subject matter is impossible to either believe or not believe in something you're not aware of.
You can only be unaware of something you've not aware of. This is logical.
Those who say we are born atheist, actually, are wrong. I know it's a popular comment we've all heard, so oft used that it must be true, but it is logically wrong.
We are born neither and a feral child would be neither - using the common description of atheism/theism - (that is "non belief in a god or gods".)
And yes you are a literal person (me not so much but I suppose I've got other strengths), but to bring up one point you made literally - "You can't believe in something you have not heard of yet." Yep, absolutely. You are right.
But - you also can't NOT believe in something you've not heard of yet. The thing is, this is also true. Because belief (or non belief) needs a subject matter, by definition. (belief = acceptance of a subject to be true without relying on evidence, non belief = non acceptance of a subject to be true)
So because belief requires an idea/subject matter is impossible to either believe or not believe in something you're not aware of.
You can only be unaware of something you've not aware of. This is logical.
Those who say we are born atheist, actually, are wrong. I know it's a popular comment we've all heard, so oft used that it must be true, but it is logically wrong.
We are born neither and a feral child would be neither - using the common description of atheism/theism - (that is "non belief in a god or gods".)
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
