Atheism: The True Path?

[fr0d0]

Evie.. I think you're saying nothing new again.

You don't get religion. Faith in a God that you can't prove. *shrugs*

I've already explained in my last post the reason people adopt religion... for the alternate lifestyle. The moral guidelines; the full life; the positivity. These things are extremely desirable to most humans. Religion is one way to attain these among many. Personally I don't think any other philosophy gets anywhere near what's possible with Christianity. This is why I think there's a damn strong case for religion. Whatever else people have come up with just can't touch it.

Like you I'm on a constant search for truth. I see truth in statements of wisdom such as those the bible is crammed full of (but not exclusively to the bible). To me these are as close to real truth as I've found. These make stingingly acute sense to me.

The truth of Gods existence is beyond the reach of sensual proof you can feel or measure. The truth is, God isn't provable. This is a fundamental truth.

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Religion has (here, as I have pointed it out) stated that God is timeless. This interpretation isn't 'absolute' and it is at the same time consistent with current scientific understanding of the universe.

And I could state that god is cream cake ... just because I state it does that give it worth? NO. If a hundred people state that does that give it worth? No. A thousand? No ... that people state something DOES NOT confer upon it any inherent value.

Belief in ANYTHING without evidence, without logical reason is utterly at odds with scientific thought so the question becomes how logical the belief in a given god is and since you can't or won't provide any validatable supporting evidence I believe it is fair to say that it IS inconsistent with what we currently understand about the universe.

None of which deals with the point discussed. A logical assertion written in the bible that you do not contend it seems.

You're dreaming thinking that religion ever changed it's mind bludgeoned by facts. Show me one tenet of Christianity that has changed at all. How come the bible isn't constantly being re-written if it had ever realistically been proved to be wrong? I get the feeling that being slapped with a wet kipper you'd still insist everyone else was imagining it.

EVERY mainstream religion has hard to accept evolution ... they had no fucking choice! I rest my case!

Sorry that's utter nonsense and you know it.

Of course I know it would be absurd but not, I suspect, for the reasons I think you would think I think it absurd ... I think it absurd because I am well aware that you have no bloody evidence and never will do, that you are FORCED to wax philosophical/metaphysical and to claim that we would expect no evidence for deity precisely because you know you CANNOT supply it.

Well I told you first that there was no evidence nor would there ever be. It's not me that's insisting on evidence. I've explained many times why it isn't relevant. Scientific philosophy apparently requires a certain amount of blind repetition

IOW your god does not exist ... simples!

Kyu

A humorous jump of logic. You should try faith - it's far more rational

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Okay, everyone pray for Frodo's death. If he posts again that would be proof there is no God.

Or proof that prayers don't work

How quaint! Naive; but quaint.