Atheism: The True Path?

[Edwardo Piet]

Evie.. I think you're saying nothing new again.

And once again the things I keep trying to explain, you fail to refute.

You don't get religion. Faith in a God that you can't prove. *shrugs*

I don't see how "Faith" defined as 'belief without evidence' can possibly be rational, no - it's totally irrational to believe in other things without evidence...why would it be different with God?

I've already explained in my last post the reason people adopt religion... for the alternate lifestyle. The moral guidelines; the full life; the positivity. These things are extremely desirable to most humans. Religion is one way to attain these among many. Personally I don't think any other philosophy gets anywhere near what's possible with Christianity. This is why I think there's a damn strong case for religion. Whatever else people have come up with just can't touch it.

But none of these things give any reasons whatsoever to believe God exists. And if God doesn't exist then you can't get any powers from believing in God that you can't get from anywhere else. The best you can get is a placebo - and the point there, is that there are many other placebos. If a placebo is all you are after then fine. But if it's merely a placebo you are admitting that there's no reason to believe God actually exists - because there's no evidence...if there was indication that God exists that would be evidence.

Is the actual existence of God important to you or not? Or is it just a placebo for you?

Like you I'm on a constant search for truth. I see truth in statements of wisdom such as those the bible is crammed full of (but not exclusively to the bible). To me these are as close to real truth as I've found. These make stingingly acute sense to me.

But if God doesn't actually exist then all the things God-related are merely a personal placebo at best...and nothing you couldn't get from elsewhere - cos the God part isn't special if God doesn't actually exist!

The truth of Gods existence is beyond the reach of sensual proof you can feel or measure. The truth is, God isn't provable. This is a fundamental truth.

And my fundamental point is regardless of whether God is provable or not...if there's no evidence then there's, in other words, no indication that he actually exists (whatsoever, in any sense in actual reality).

So to believe anyway, admitting this is to believe without actually caring about the actual existence of God. So do you care whether God actually exists or not when you believe in him? Or is it just an emotional thing for you? Just a placebo?

EvF