RE: Another Atheist on the Alpha Course
November 16, 2011 at 6:43 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2011 at 6:46 am by 5thHorseman.)
(November 16, 2011 at 3:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Was 9/11 about religion? I thought it was about oppression and exploitation, and some poor fucks fighting back the only way they could, united by a common identifier but nothing at all to do with the actual religion. Being bitter about that is tantamount to being racist.
It was religion Frods, Bin Laden hated the US for helping the Saudi's instead of the Saudi's asking for Al Qaeda's help, he hated the permanent bases that the US has in Arab states, despite authorisation from the countries themselves.
Bin Laden interpreted the Prophet Muhammad as having banned the "permanent presence of infidels in Arabia". In 1996, bin Laden issued a fatwā calling for American troops to get out of Saudi Arabia.
About his religion?
'In 1998, Al-Qaeda wrote, "for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples." In a December 1999, interview, bin Laden said he felt that Americans were "too near to Mecca", and considered this a provocation to the entire Muslim world.'(Wiki)
Yet again religion?
'In his November 2002 "Letter to America", bin Laden cited the United States' support of Israel as a motivation: "The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals. And of course there is no need to explain and prove the degree of American support for Israel. The creation of Israel is a crime which must be erased. Each and every person whose hands have become polluted in the contribution towards this crime must pay its price, and pay for it heavily. In 2004 and 2010, bin Laden again connected the September 11 attacks with U.S. support of Israel.'(Wiki)
Would he have done the same if it had been an Islamic state instead?
'In addition to those cited by bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, analysts have suggested other motives, including western support of non-Islamist authoritarian regimes in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and northern Africa, and western troups in some of these countries.'(wiki)
Fighting back for his middle aged, bigoted religious ideals.
Oppression and exploitation is a good one, Islam is oppressive and exploitive to women, that accounts for half their population.
