(November 16, 2011 at 7:55 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: As for materialist grounds of evidence, we live in a material world, so material proof is required. god could provide material proof that he exists right here right now.Indeed and apparently he did exactly that 2011 years ago, if you believe xtianity is true.
I would also expect that a significant % of xtians also believes that god intervenes materially everyday all over the world in answer to prayer as well.
If an xtian thinks it is irrational to dismiss a god purely on material grounds, then you have to say its irrational to dismiss any invention of the human mind, whatever that maybe (even though we do that unthinkingly every single day). But once again materialism is not relevant to the meaninglessness of the god concept, its a red herring.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.